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Post by Flocker on Apr 18, 2019 14:51:30 GMT
I took my plane in for an annual this week and one of the findings was a worn out bushing in the horizontal stabilizer. Apparently it has been an on-going issue as the hole where the bushing resides had also worn out. It is now egg shaped as opposed to being circular. We're having to replace the stabilizer torque tube as well as the bushings.
When preflighting, the stabilizer should have no movement front to back or up and down from the tip. If it does, it may be a worn out bushing.
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Post by Flocker on Apr 18, 2019 15:36:16 GMT
Here's the area in question. Part #33
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Post by TiPi on Apr 18, 2019 22:35:33 GMT
Had the same problem on my P92 Eaglet. The LAME who assembled the tail after a repair didn't tighten the 2 bolts from the torque tube to the bearing correctly. I could feel some minor movement during preflight, so investigated and found the problem. Luckily, the bolt holes were good, just had to get new bolts. They don't wear out if the bolts are torqued correctly.
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Post by timb on Apr 19, 2019 1:22:47 GMT
My P2008 had the same issue last annual (around 700 hours) the shop listed - stabilator has fore/aft movement. Action:Removed elevator and worn stabilator brackets, prepped & painted new elevator brackets and reinstalled.
Parts listed were left and right stabilator fittings and stop nut.
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Post by Cluemeister on Apr 19, 2019 18:37:32 GMT
Just to be clear timb, was the movement up and down on the elevator, or a horizontal left to right movement?
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Post by timb on Apr 19, 2019 23:58:06 GMT
My horizontal stabilizer moved slightly forward and aft, meaning if you pulled on the tip forward or pushed rearward there was play. I do not recall movement up & down.
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Post by Flocker on Apr 23, 2019 1:54:16 GMT
When preflighting, the stabilizer should have no movement front to back or up and down from the tip. If it does, it may be a worn out bushing. Replaced the torque tube today. Annual completed; however, this is still some (slight) movement on the stabilizer. Apparently the bushing is a type that swivels. I've been told that some (slight) movement is normal... the bushing we replaced was clearly worn out. As Mark said, they should be tightened on a regular basis.
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Post by stroudj on Apr 23, 2019 3:26:45 GMT
Flocker, how many hours do you have on your P2008? I checked my stabilizer I just have a slight movement. I have 670 hrs on mine.
Thanks, Jim
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Post by Flocker on Apr 23, 2019 11:54:41 GMT
Flocker, how many hours do you have on your P2008? I checked my stabilizer I just have a slight movement. I have 670 hrs on mine. Thanks, Jim 568
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Post by Cluemeister on Apr 23, 2019 13:36:06 GMT
I’m having mine checked today, as I have an upcoming PPL checkride. Will report back what’s found. 183 hours currently.
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Post by Cluemeister on Apr 24, 2019 17:16:41 GMT
The stabilizer had up and down movement, none side to side. The hole had been elongated by wear, so the tube connecting the elevators was replaced. IMG_0116.mov (1.64 MB)
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Post by ChiMike on Apr 26, 2019 2:19:28 GMT
I tested my H.S. today—no issues. Thanks for the tip on how to check it.
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Post by TiPi on Apr 27, 2019 3:44:10 GMT
The prevent the costly replacement of the elevator torque tube, any movement needs to be investigated and fixed pronto. Most of the time, just re-tighening the 2 axis bolts will fix it.
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Post by Flocker on May 6, 2019 19:24:21 GMT
When preflighting, the stabilizer should have no movement front to back or up and down from the tip. If it does, it may be a worn out bushing. they should be tightened on a regular basis. After 10 hours on my new torque tube, I started getting movement on the stabilizer. Both up and down and forward and back. We tightened up the 10mm bolts and were able to get to zero movement. Like Tipi said, any movement should be investigated pronto.
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Post by ChrisConnor on May 9, 2019 23:00:45 GMT
Had the same issue on my P92. I caught the problem before any damage was done by the bolt(s) coming loose. Contacted Tecnam about it, but never recieved a fix. What I did (and it works perfectly) is add a second Nylock nut to the end of the bolt, as a jam nut. I had plenty of bolt there. Niether side have come loose since. I added a paint line to visually verify it's where I left it during each preflight.
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