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Post by scrapman1959 on Oct 7, 2017 17:38:22 GMT
We took delivery of a new P2008 with 914 on Thursday afternoon. Mark delivered it to our private strip at our scrap processing and recycling facility 3 miles NW of 7C3 (Monona, Iowa) The runway is about 1200 ft and has a pretty good slope Up hill on the first 500' landing on 36. The approach to 18 has tall power lines 250' before the threshold, and then you are down hill the entire length with that steeper incline last 500'. Of course the wind was out of the south so Mark had the more difficult runway, but he put it down with room to spare. Will post some pics on Monday. I have been a CT driver for 11 years, purchasing 4 new CT s in that time frame and logging more than 2500 hours on those fine little AC. But in the end, who could resist the extra speed of the turbo?
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Post by buzz on Oct 7, 2017 19:34:00 GMT
Welcome Scrappy. Sounds like you have an interesting runway. Look forward to seeing your pics. This I my plane in the Seattle area.
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Post by scrapman1959 on Oct 7, 2017 22:02:45 GMT
Thx Buzz. That's a beautiful bird. I struggled with the blue or red choice. In the end we went red. I have only an hour total in the P2008, but had no problem setting it down on our downhill runway 18 while Mark was doing my transistion training. My initial observations, the P2008 has much more balanced controls and seems more harmonious in turns etc than the CTs. The only complaint so far is the CT has better viz out the side windows without tucking your head, but I will probably fly with seat tipped back more once I'm very comfortable in the AC. This will get me better view out the side windows. The transistion to toe brakes from a hand brake seems pretty easy so far, but I haven't been in a heavy cross wind yet, where the nose wheel hooked to rudders in the CT made that very easy.
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Post by frfly172 on Oct 8, 2017 1:15:06 GMT
Interesting reading your comparison of the ct to the tecnam.
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Post by jetcat3 on Oct 8, 2017 18:14:44 GMT
Scrapman, We would love to see some photos of your new P2008 in red! Very interesting to hear of your experiences compared to the CT line of aircraft. I know what you mean about the visibility out of the sides of the windows. My Dad and I have gotten really good and reclining our seats on their rails and reclining the back rests. Not only is it extremely comfortable, but you can’t beat the view and extra 1 or 2 KNOTS gained in cruise.  |
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Post by mackattack on Oct 9, 2017 15:57:13 GMT
Congrats on the new bird!!! I think you will also find the Tecnams (both the 2008 and Astore) to be very robustly constructed and solid feeling - agree they are well balanced in flight, better handling through turbulence, less susceptible to floating on final, better crosswind capabilities, very strong nose gear strut, etc. Had a CT accident at my home field in Texas a year or so ago - no injuries fortunately ...
Welcome to the forum too! Lots of great people and info here, on the airframe, avionics, engines, systems, etc.
Cheers!
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Post by scrapman1959 on Oct 13, 2017 3:07:04 GMT
Thanks Mack! I'm curious as to what happened in your landing accident? The CT is probably one of the toughest Lite Sports to learn to land. It took me a long time to get consistent landings. With full flaps, it will float 2 or 3 feet over the runway until all the energy is gone, and then drops like a stone. You have to be ready to haul back on the stick immediately, because this drop comes all of sudden. Landing with 15 degrees is a little more traditional. Once you have this figured out, it's no big deal, and I have landed in 28 gusting 34 knots but never use more than 15 degrees in those conditions. The CTLS can handle a very strong crosswind as well in the hands of an expercienced pilot.
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Post by ChiMike on Oct 13, 2017 3:59:54 GMT
Scrapman,
I’m also a recent new 08t owner— and a bit of time in CTLS ‘s: I agree completely it is a difficult LSA to master landing. The 08t, however, handles much more like a Cessna 172 / GA airplane. And having been exposed to how much that 914 Turbo engine outperforms the 912 Rotax, I can’t see myself going back. Best of luck with your new plane—and happy flying!
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Post by Cluemeister on Oct 14, 2017 1:32:44 GMT
I believe the CT landing accident was not Mack's personally but someone else at his airfield.
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Post by Glenn on Oct 14, 2017 12:44:54 GMT
I believe the CT landing accident was not Mack's personally but someone else at his airfield. Another forum reports the pilot had recently soloed (just happened to be a woman). |
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Post by mackattack on Oct 20, 2017 3:16:34 GMT
Oh gosh no, it wasn’t me thank goodness. Was a husband/wife who had brought their CT to our field for maintenance (the shop has since moved to another nearby private airport). According to the shop owner, who I know well, the shop worked on the brakes - not the engine. But the plane suffered engine failure on climbout - pilot turned around and headed back for a landing with the wind on runway 7-25 (the longest one at the field - 3300’, trees at the end of 07). Pilot came in high and quick, admitted forgetting to slip, landed quite long and basically hit the trees on the landing runout. Both walked away with bumps and bruises if I remember right (Kathryn’s would have all the details so don’t take any of this as gospel). Which is amazing and a positive for the CT, because based on the photos I saw, it was crumpled up like paper.
That’s what I heard - it predated me moving to the field by several months at least.
Cheers
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