ash31mi
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Home Airport: 18AZ Carefree Skyranch, AZ
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Post by ash31mi on Jan 7, 2019 5:24:20 GMT
I plan on using mogas in my recently-purchased Astore but have some concerns about the whole process of filling multiple 5 gallon polyethylene fuel containers at the gas station, transporting them to the airport, then refueling the aircraft. Common sense suggests refuelling out in the open, but I'm concerned about static electricity and yet it doesn't seem that using a standard grounding wire to the aircraft such as one uses at the airport's 100LL facility would be effective.
What do others do in this situation, and what are the best safety practices for the end-to-end process?
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Post by grantopperman on Jan 7, 2019 17:29:51 GMT
Thanks for creating this post! I'm interested in this subject too. In addition to the transportation and safety elements, I understand that mogas has a shorter shelf life, like you don't want to leave it in your plane for more than a few weeks. Someone correct me if that's not right.
For now, I have been using 100LL with the Decalin Run Up additive as suggested by Mark Gregor. I would definitely be motivated to use mogas for cross country trips, though, on those occasions when I know I'm going to be consuming whole tankfuls--assuming, that is, there are some good solutions for ash31mi's questions above.
Thanks, everyone, for being such a great resource to each other!
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Post by bravodriver on Jan 7, 2019 18:05:20 GMT
Here is an active link to an old thread from the SuperCub folks on the subject. www.supercub.org/forum/archive/index.php/t-19636.html I'm blessed to have hangar delivery by fuel truck. My back couldn't lift the can overhead. I would recommend you test (for alcohol) the fuel you buy at the retail gas outlet. There is no cradle to grave control of the ethanol free fuel one buys from gas stations (nor anything else at the station). My rotax mechanic has seen alcohol damage to fuel systems in engines running solely mogas. |
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Post by Tony on Jan 7, 2019 18:31:49 GMT
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Post by bravodriver on Jan 7, 2019 18:52:16 GMT
That's a nice trailer rig. I'd love to have one. Unfortunately my Airport Authority does not allow more than 5 gallons of fuel storage in the hangar. The bureaucrats would have a field day determining the exact amount of gas in the tank. They would probably make me spend money to "certify" a fuel measurement stick with periodic logging of the amount of fuel in the trailer!
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Post by Flocker on Jan 7, 2019 20:14:38 GMT
I have the same setup. Works great. |
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Post by Flocker on Jan 7, 2019 20:15:31 GMT
Unfortunately my Airport Authority does not allow more than 5 gallons of fuel storage in the hangar. How would they know? Do they conduct random hangar inspections? |
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Post by Tony on Jan 7, 2019 21:03:11 GMT
That's a nice trailer rig. I'd love to have one. Unfortunately my Airport Authority does not allow more than 5 gallons of fuel storage in the hangar. The bureaucrats would have a field day determining the exact amount of gas in the tank. They would probably make me spend money to "certify" a fuel measurement stick with periodic logging of the amount of fuel in the trailer! I read in another forum that if it is a public airport and receives federal funding they cannot prohibit fueling. That information is worth what you paid for it however the poster is well known and I trust his information. |
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timb
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Post by timb on Jan 8, 2019 0:43:44 GMT
I built this 26 gallon tank with a rolling dolly. When empty it's light enough to lift into the truck, after driving to the gas station I fill with 93 octane 10% ethanol. I have a clip on lifting rig that I attach to my hangar door to lift it off the truck, move the truck then lower it onto it's dolly and I'm good to go. With limiting it to 26 gallons the gas stays fresh and the weight is reasonable.  |
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ash31mi
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Home Airport: 18AZ Carefree Skyranch, AZ
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Post by ash31mi on Jan 8, 2019 0:44:42 GMT
Thanks everyone for your input so far. Unfortunately no chance I'll be having a refueling cart any time soon. Other feedback I received on the SportPilotTalk forum suggests the process can be safe(r) using common sense precautions to reduce the risk of static electricity. Someone suggested using the "No Spill" 5 gallon containers (just Google it) which looks like a pretty good idea.
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Post by Cluemeister on Jan 8, 2019 11:15:34 GMT
I use no spill containers along with an anti static mr. funnel. If I use the 2.5 gallon containers, I lift and pour. If it's 5 gallon, I use the siphon sold on aircraft websites.
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Post by bravodriver on Jan 8, 2019 15:35:32 GMT
Unfortunately my Airport Authority does not allow more than 5 gallons of fuel storage in the hangar. How would they know? Do they conduct random hangar inspections? The fire department comes around a couple times a year. It's a municipality owned airport. I might be ok with the rolling cart though, like TimB built. |
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Post by Flocker on Jan 8, 2019 23:10:25 GMT
I'd build a work bench with a cabinet door large enough to conceal it... Chances are they are just looking for fire extinguisher currency and obvious hazards. A well concealed fuel dolly like Tim's may go unnoticed.  |
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Post by Flocker on Jan 8, 2019 23:15:27 GMT
Someone suggested using the "No Spill" 5 gallon containers (just Google it) which looks like a pretty good idea. It's worth visiting their website to meet Jill...  |
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Post by Tony on Jan 9, 2019 1:12:35 GMT
Someone suggested using the "No Spill" 5 gallon containers (just Google it) which looks like a pretty good idea. It's worth visiting their website to meet Jill... I bet you didn’t expect that! |
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