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Post by tucsonmike on Jan 9, 2021 0:37:22 GMT
Is there a P2010 owner in Arizona that would like to talk about their plane and possibly let me have a look at it. I am seriously looking at buying one but have not seen one in person. Thanks for the consideration. Mike 520-400-8535
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Post by tucsonmike on Jan 10, 2021 17:17:57 GMT
Must not be many of these planes around. Is there a reason to avoid ? Seems like an improvement over the 172 for a much better price when comparing like years and hours.
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Post by cole505 on Jan 10, 2021 18:14:47 GMT
 Hi Tucsonmike,
I will be at Ryan Air Field this week, not sure how far that would be for you. I have a new P-2008 with 120 hours....... If you would like to stop by this coming week and take a look your Welcome ..... I having some Avonics work done. I could fill you in on Dealing with Tecnam.You also mentioned the P-2010 not sure if there are any out west. I am based in Las Vegas if you get up this way again I would be happy to have you take a look...... at my P-2008 Ray 😃🇺🇸✅✅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 |
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Post by tucsonmike on Jan 10, 2021 19:45:30 GMT
Thanks for the reply. I am 30 min from Ryan. Just let me know when would be a good time to see your airplane, I would really appreciate that. Mike Arnold 520-400-8535
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Post by cole505 on Jan 10, 2021 19:50:09 GMT
Ok Mike,
Sounds good will give you a call....... look forward to meeting you ..... I like your Avatar 👍🏻
Ray ☀️✈️✅🇺🇸👍🏻
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Post by tucsonmike on Jan 10, 2021 21:44:15 GMT
Ok Mike, Sounds good will give you a call....... look forward to meeting you ..... I like your Avatar 👍🏻 Ray ☀️✈️✅🇺🇸👍🏻 Your avatar is cool as well. My Dad was in B26's and in B29's WWII and Korea. See you soon, have a great flight. |
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Post by ChiMike on Jan 11, 2021 3:54:40 GMT
Tusconmike, in my opinion I think the new engine version of the P2010 is an excellent alternative and value to the Cessna 172-182 high-wing products. Where Tecnam could have really made a difference with the P2010 is going after potential Cirrus buyers (who like the Cirrus safety features) who do not like low wing aircraft, especially getting in and out of them with older parents or younger children: instead Tecnam is competing with Cessna. And just like Cessna, Tecnam doesn’t think that having a BRS equipped P2010 is a big deal, so they don’t. And American consumers in that price point buy used Cirrus products because they have a BRS parachute. And neither company is selling many airplanes compared to Cirrus. But Tecnam is also using a European model that is based more on possible customers coming to them, not on reaching out to educate the potential market on their products.
I own a P2008 turbo (with a BRS) and I’m quite happy with the airplane—and yes, I would buy another Tecnam.
Unfortunately, like most Tecnam airplanes, the P2010 is an option few if any have ever heard of. While Tecnam can design and build great airplanes, they know (or at least for the U.S. market DO) nothing about marketing. There is no formal workable distribution system for their products, just a kind of quasi-regional group of hodge-podge sales guys who are hip shooting as they go along. That isn’t totally their fault, they are just dealing with no formal Tecnam US corporate structure of support. They are expected to purchase a number of differing aircraft each year on their own dime, then desperately try to sell them without losing money, and without a corporate marketing structure.
Since Tecnam seems to be able to sell every plane they can make regardless of investing in marketing, maybe they are business geniuses.
Service is the folks who do Rotax engines here and there across the US and by default become ‘Tecnam’ service folks. Independent mechanics and shops are figuring it out as they go—there just isn’t that many Tecnam planes in the US compared to Cessna or Cirrus. I suspect that for reasons of product liability the owners at Tecnam made the decision to have zero US involvement after the sale. Getting warranty items taken care of does happen, from what I’ve read here on the board, but often requires a lot of persistence.
The Tecnam product is excellent. And if you get one, particularly when looking at performance and overall reliability, they are a solid value proposition. When it’s time for me to change to something different I will almost certainly stay with a Tecnam—I like how they fly and I appreciate the reasonable cost for the comparable performance. But I will do so—this time—fully understanding that Tecnam as a company just doesn’t care about a dealer and company driven support system.
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Post by cole505 on Jan 13, 2021 3:57:45 GMT
Hi Chimike,
Have to tell you Well put! You hit the nail on the head. I am in Tucson ( RYAN FIELD ) as I write this. They sold me a brand new P-2008 with a Non-complaint ADSB and a radio issue. The day I left Mankato I found out I had a radio issue. I flew the next year NOT knowing my ADSB was not in compliance until I got a call from the FAA! I had to get a special permit to be able to fly the airplane to Ryan........ Keep in mind this airplane is still under a full factory warranty, but it looks like I will be paying the repairs Josh had opened a job ticket. I truly hope Tecanm does the right thing and pays for an improperly installed ADSB and radio........ I had to write to Walter Decosta third in the Tecanm chain of command to get my full two year warranty. But heck what good is a warranty if I have to pay for the repairs anyway. When they strapped the oil return line to directly to the exhaust manifold. And burned through I lost oil pressure and was really lucky I did not trash a brand new engine! They blamed me and of course I paid for the repair, the engine only had 80 hours......They did feel sorry and send me a new oil line........ And was Lucky I did not have an off airport landing ............ and list list go’s on!
Ray & Lucy ✈️👍🏻😘🇺🇸😃☀️
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Post by cavok on Jun 21, 2021 23:33:59 GMT
One issue I wonder about is software updates from Garmin. I know from the Diamond boards that poor support means that Diamond aircraft are either years out of date with regards to updates from Garmin or in some cases the aircraft avionics are orphaned. From that point of view a steam panel is preferable so the owner can upgrade each instrument selectively. What’s the situation with the Garmin glass in Tecnam aircraft? Thanks.
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Post by fpkone on Jul 26, 2021 20:18:19 GMT
I'm considering a new P2010 but it seems many of the new Garmin equip in the plane is over 10 years old and discontinued. Apparently Garmin has agreed to support this old equip in new Tecnams for 10 years. Just doesn't seem right to be selling new planes with outdated equipment. So I'm not sure I'm going the P2010 route.
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Post by fpkone on Aug 10, 2021 19:06:06 GMT
I'm considering a new P2010 but it seems many of the new Garmin equip in the plane is over 10 years old and discontinued. Apparently Garmin has agreed to support this old equip in new Tecnams for 10 years. Just doesn't seem right to be selling new planes with outdated equipment. So I'm not sure I'm going the P2010 route. Well I have confirmed Tecnam P2010 is now using G1000 NXi Phase 2 tech and not the older technology so I'm going to order a P2010 with 215 HP engine. Couldn't be happier with my decision. |
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Post by fpkone on Jun 17, 2022 15:01:41 GMT
Is there a P2010 owner in Arizona that would like to talk about their plane and possibly let me have a look at it. I am seriously looking at buying one but have not seen one in person. Thanks for the consideration. Mike 520-400-8535 Mike, did you ever get a P2010? |
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