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Post by Flocker on Apr 3, 2018 13:47:46 GMT
Personally I think Tecnam should sell all new Tecnams with the Beringers Installed........... It would be so worth the additional cost...... And new owners would be that much happier! I've confirmed this to be true. All new P2008's now come with Beringer wheels and brakes; however, they are still using Matco Master Cylinders. Buyer Beware. |
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Post by Flocker on Apr 3, 2018 14:35:40 GMT
I have been dealing with dragging brakes for months. It happens when they heat up on a long taxi. It's annoying to say the least.
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Post by Flocker on Apr 3, 2018 22:28:53 GMT
I have been dealing with dragging brakes for months. It happens when they heat up on a long taxi. That's the only issue I've had with the MATCOs. It's annoying to say the least. That sounds like an installation problem. I would get a 2nd opinion, other than the last source, which worked on or installed them. It's a moot point. My Beringers will be here next week. I hope to have the same exceptional results as others on here. |
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Post by MarkGregor on Apr 4, 2018 0:26:52 GMT
Several reasons why the Beringers have been better. Number one is reduced shimmy on take off and landing. Probly a few reasons for this. The Beringer wheels are better balanced to begin with and the Michelin or Good Year tubeless tires are higher quality than the tube type tires. (More expensive too!) Many of the tube type tires are cheap and out of round from brand new, basically impossible to balance. Tubeless tires last longer also but they should for the cost.
The tires fit loose on the Matco wheels and a sticky runway landing will slip the tire on the rim. this bunches the tube inside the tire and really makes it out of balance. Seen it several times. Keeping the tires at the top of recommended pressures reduces this but still happens.
The next advantage is reduced flats. The tube type tires eventually chafe the tube and cause a flat. Again keeping at the top of the inflation range helps but still happens. I hate flats and have less of them with the Beringers.
Wheel bearings seem to go out on the Matcos with regularity. Beringers use higher quality tapered bearings.
Brake feel seems been better on the Beringers. Some of the Matcos take a lot of pressure on the pedals and have out of round rotors which you can feel in the pedals. Have not seen this in the Beringers.
One disadvantage is changing the tire requires a special tool. It is fairly inexpensive at $150 but not all service centers have it.
And did I say they Look nice?!
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Post by Flocker on Apr 4, 2018 12:43:12 GMT
One disadvantage is changing the tire requires a special tool. It is fairly inexpensive at $150 but not all service centers have it. What tool is this? Just want to make sure SouthTec has one before I fly up there... |
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Post by stroudj on Apr 4, 2018 14:36:09 GMT
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Post by Cluemeister on Apr 4, 2018 16:14:37 GMT
I had no problems fitting the new tubeless tires on the mains. There was room to spare on those wheel pants. But my nose wheel tire was a bit too big for the pant, and I had to get a slightly smaller nose wheel tire to fit. Both Mark and Beringers were very helpful. Apparently even though the tires in the photo are officially the same size, as you can see in reality they are not the same size. The first tire I tried on the left, and then the one that fit, on the right.  |
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Post by Flocker on Apr 4, 2018 17:43:03 GMT
The tool is used for removing and mounting the tires on the rim. The tires should come pre mounted to the rims. I believe that is correct. Thanks! |
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Post by MarkGregor on Apr 5, 2018 0:21:23 GMT
Flocker,
When we send the wheels we will also send the tire change tool. Glen really needs to have one. Tubeless tires will continue to increase in popularity.
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Post by Flocker on Apr 20, 2018 21:42:09 GMT
Let the installation begin!  |
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Post by montanapilot on Apr 20, 2018 23:02:12 GMT
I’d like to share a bit of a different perspective on the Matcos.
By way of context, I’m happy to pay for the best, and I’ve equipped my Astore with every option except for the BRS (because, of course, the additional weight), so if I felt that I’d add value by switching, I’d do it. Also, until I bought my Astore (bought new last July) I had never flown an airplane with a castering nosewheel, and I note this only because there’s the possibility that I simply don’t know what I’m missing.
We’ve just completed the SB, and no problem. However, my mechanic noted that unlike Cirrus aircraft on which he’s worked and that have Beringers, my left tire will not spin freely. It does spin as he moves it with his hand, so it’s in no way frozen, but it stops when the pressure is removed. The right tire continues to spin when he stops pushing on it.
Nevertheless, although I found takeoffs quite challenging in the beginning, I’ve made the peace with them and by smoothly applying power on takeoff to balance keeping corkscrew effect at bay while still accelerating enough to get the rudder working, I’m using hardly any brake at all on takeoff, and only at the very beginning of the takeoff roll. I’ve also developed a separate technique for left crosswind takeoffs (no brake usage at all), but that’s another story. Bottom line is that although the left wheel is not turning as freely as it could, as a practical matter, it’s not been an issue.
I’ve also not experienced any shimmy or any of the other problems that have been mentioned.
The one thing that I’m quite conscientious about is maintaining appropriate air pressure in the tires.
So, my personal solution is that I’m not – at least at this point – switching to Beringers.
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Post by montanapilot on Apr 20, 2018 23:09:05 GMT
I'd add one other element. There is a potential consequence to my decision. If I should have a failure in the Matcos that isn't repairable, there will be, as I understand, a 4 week wait for the Beringers, so I'll be down for 4 weeks, and that would be something for anybody who's going to retain his or her Matcos to consider. I just don't think that the possibility of such a catastrophic failure that can't be repaired in such a way that I can continue flying for another month is that much of a risk.
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Post by Flocker on Apr 26, 2018 15:03:31 GMT
My Beringer installation is complete. Picking 1TA up tomorrow! If anyone from the Matco crowd would like some spare parts, I can ask SouthTec to hold onto them. PM if interested.
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Post by Glenn on Apr 26, 2018 15:05:59 GMT
My Beringer installation is complete. Picking 1TA up tomorrow! If anyone from the Matco crowd would like some spare parts, I can ask SouthTec to hold onto them. PM if interested. I'm interested. Glenn |
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Post by Flocker on Apr 26, 2018 15:45:17 GMT
EM sent.
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